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[Jul. 17th, 2011|05:33 pm]
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On July 9, I made my sole public post on Google+.  It reads:

Dear 1000 people who have added me to their circles apparently overnight: very kind of you to think of me, but the system is just not fine-grained enough yet to let me sort through you effectively. So I have to declare Google+ bankruptcy. Sorry.

Also none of you invoked me in the approved manner, which requires a bottle of whisky, ritual drumming, fire, two chickens, a bucket of eels and a nurse.

Neil Gaiman copied the post to his own account, and then deleted his account a couple of days later.  Totally understandable.  That little red notification button going off in Gmail every sixty seconds can get a bit maddening.  I just took a look at Google+.  Since I posted this, another 4000 people have added me to their circles.  It’s an interesting service, but it’s nigh impossible to find the people I actually know or am interested in within the flood of faces.  And the “relevancy” system is, um, not very good.  In fact, I summed my experience of that up as:

SCIENCE: I am actually probably not that good at it.  But I have the lab coat regardless.  And they cannot have it back.

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[User Picture]From: hep
2011-07-18 01:16 am (UTC)

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i am having that same problem. google is all SUP YOU MUST BE FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON BECAUSE YOU EMAILED THEM ONCE IN 2004 SO THAT TOTALLY MEANS YOU WANT TO INVITE THEM TO SHARE THE DETAILS OF YOUR LIFE!

i mean, sure, i know i can add a person to a douchebag list and ignore them forever, but when its 200 people half of whom have similar names to someone i DO know it gets tedious to even pretend to care about a new social app. i do like the youtube videochat player tho. i've been waiting for someone to put something like that on the internet for years now.
[User Picture]From: ygolonac
2011-07-18 03:18 am (UTC)

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So why doesn't this bother you on Twitter? You've got over 400k followers on Twitter. You are following 162 people there. Was it easier to separate out those 162 people on Twitter?

I don't really care if you personally join Goggle+ and am not trying to convince you that you should, I was just curious about this. It seems like a UI issue that Google needs to put a few geniuses on or something.
[User Picture]From: lectrix_lecti
2011-07-18 07:20 am (UTC)

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That's my question regarding all the people muttering about their followers on G+. ffs you're all on Twitter, why hasn't exactly the same thing there made your head go splodey.

Also, I treat the notification button the same way I treat work e-mail notification. Ignore ignore ignore allotted check what's happened time ignore ignore ignore, rinse and repeat.
[User Picture]From: strawberryfrog
2011-07-18 09:48 am (UTC)

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I agree. Google+ doesn't seem to be working for some well-known people, yet it didn't neglect this case entirely - If I put someone in my "following" circle, which is one of the default set of circles, it does not mean that I know them personally, it means that I want to read what they write. I don't really expect them to follow me back.

facebook friends are two-way links, twitter and G+ friends are directional links.

Also, google did not say to me "these are your friends, I insist", or if it did, I clicked "go away" and forgot about it soon after. I'm very happy with the social graph reset and one-by-one additions that followed.
[User Picture]From: warren_ellis
2011-07-18 01:20 pm (UTC)

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Twitter doesn't put a blinky red button in my Gmail window that you cannot get rid of.

Relevancy captures work better on twitter. In fact, discovery works better, too, as you can see who your twitter friends talk to (in a couple of ways).

Also, have you noticed that when your friends arrive on Twitter, they tweet at you? But when they arrive on G+ they assume the notification that they put you in a circle will work? But you get at least ten notifications every minute on your Gmail button, and the notifications sort of vanish into a memory hole if you don't have email notifications on, so if you are say asleep or eating or taking a piss or hey maybe even not online for a day... SO, when you come back, your friend who added you to a circle is one of a thousand little faces. If you're me.

Among other things. Those are off the top of my head.

I mean, it's hardly a terrible thing to not be able to use a free web service effectively. But the situation was amusing enough to me for a blog post.
[User Picture]From: goffchick
2011-07-18 07:50 pm (UTC)

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Pff, it's just because you're too damn popular and you've broken their little system. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT. GOOGLE+ TOLD ME SO.
[User Picture]From: mithras
2011-07-18 06:15 am (UTC)

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I had G+ tell me I should add ex-girlfriends to circles.

Errr, no. Not even as an "ex-girlfriend" circle.


On a side note (since you listed BERG/SVK in this post): I got my two copies of SVK, but only one of the SVK items worked. I looked on the site, but since I've been drinking, I can't seem to find something to tell them about this.

I may just take it apart.
[User Picture]From: warren_ellis
2011-07-18 01:13 pm (UTC)

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shop@berglondon.com
[User Picture]From: ribbin
2011-07-21 03:07 am (UTC)

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This is why I have a "Twats" circle. Everyone G+ wants me to add who's a twat, gets added to Twats. It's amazingly satisfying. So far, it's the domain of Teabaggers, self-important pricks who don't quite cut the mustard, and people who actively abet them into vomiting forth more dumb.
[User Picture]From: hairyears
2011-07-18 03:47 pm (UTC)

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The depraved denizens of Whitechapel are going to draw the invocation.

You have been warned.