So you invented one of the basic operating principles of a TARDIS then?
VE-REE SO-REE NOT SPEAKO NERD. IN ENGLISHING SLOWLY PLEASE?
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/67364477/9150911) | From: dougfort 2008-08-07 05:16 pm (UTC)
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This sounds like the Syllogismobile of L. Sprague de Camp and Fletcher Pratt. When I was forbidden to read fantasy or science fiction as a kid, 'The Incomplete Enchanter' is one of the books I had stashed, the way I later stashed drugs. I read it over and over until I had it practically by heart. http://www.philosophynow.org/archive/articles/40alder.htm
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/94087170/117261) | From: lots42 2008-08-07 05:48 pm (UTC)
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There were a few books I was not allowed to read as a kid. These are the books I checked out of the library as soon as I could.
Believe it and you can be it! Anywhere.
Sounds a lot more pleasant than those disintergrator/cloner "teleporters" on Star Trek.
I'm still trying to track down that fandom article/maybe Trek novel (really, same thing) that 'proves' the people being transported were not being killed and cloned.
But still, I wouldn't trust myself to a machine that goes offline every time the plot demands it.
Tell us more about these Upside Down People
If you're only teleporting on Earth, you can use define the coordinate system with respect to the planet's gravitational profile which would be relatively independent of it's orientation and velocity.
A possible problem with proving you are someplace might be the tendency of the universe to "explain" your being there, resulting in an alternate history emerging for why you are at your chosen location.
This, of course, might have happened any number of times by now. And one would never know.
And transmitting to the universe that thing, unless by the use of Mathematics it directly corresponds to the basic structure of the space-time continuum?
Reminds me of one of my earlier thoughts, about using Belief/Disbelief to alter the universe, because you could just as easily/likely be in that other state, so it's all a matter of belief (performed by a solipsist).
Well, apparently the universe already does whatever you think it does on a quantum level. (Re: the double slit experiment). The trick is in scaling that up.
Intresting. I've always thought it more revolved around the relative value of the word "here" and convincing yourself that you are already where you want to be.
I'm convince if I just don't pay attention, I could be anywhere.
An old story and a truefax incident has given me an idea. We can split atoms and rotate them in one spot and miles away the atom (or molecule or tiny little thing) rotates and we don't know how.
We just need to figure out how to hook that atom up to where it was ten days ago in space and time...
Yep, that's how Tesla did it :)
A fixed reference point would be required and those are hard to come by in a relativistic universe. I too have given this some thought but I don't have the same good excuse you do.
Now that I think about it, this might explain a few vanishings. People accidentally proved they were in the asteroid belt.
Relatedly, how awesome is it the solar system has an asteroid belt? Totally, that's how.
I think a rhinestone belt would look snazzier.
Presumably this computer requires a nice hot cup of proper tea as a cataylst.
and play Diamanda Galas very very loud at 4am to drown out the sound
Dammit. I do that.
That explains why your neighbors seemed used to it last night.
assuming everything and everyone has a identifier.
assuming these identifiers are watched and tracked by...something.
assuming the something watching can be interfaced with.
assuming that the interface allows instant change of location tag.
assuming you survive the process.
yes it should work.
something reminds me of identity thieves.
I think that's how a lot of people got through 'Nam...
"I'm not here, I'm back home in Cheyenne, Wyoming."
Ingest the Spice. Become a navigator. Fold space.
The Spice must flow.
The tricky bit is that Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle makes it essentially impossible to know your precise location. Granted, the margin of error is pretty much negligible at human scale, but from a mathematical standpoint, it's a hassle.
The interesting thing is that the subatomic particles of which you're made are small enough that that uncertainty is pretty significant. An electron is not so much a little object zipping through space -- it's a cloud of probability marking where it is most likely to be at any given instant. I think there have been experiments done where there was evidence of an electron being located first inside a box, then outside it, with no obvious explanation of how it got from one side to the other beyond the fact that both locations were within its probability 'cloud.'
Actually, that phenomenon is called tunnelling, and there are all sorts of coll experiments we can do with it!
Presuming we're the only intelligence in the universe. I've always thought that if I could get everyone to believe I was somewhere else then the Universe would BEND TO OUR MIGHTY WILL* and move me there.
Course, as soon as you get a breakaway sect that wants to believe you're somewhere else it gets difficult.
*Obligatory mentalist block caps.
I for one would like to see a teleporter that runs on sheer audacity. Some kind of machine with a picture of me that plays a recording along the lines of "HE'S NOT HERE, HE'S BANGING A PROSTITUTE IN SWITZERLAND!" very loudly while I sit beside it nodding and smiling politely at anyone who wanders past, possibly smoking a pipe and swirling a glass of brandy.
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/12459546/1174647) | From: sinisterwilliam 2008-08-08 09:48 am (UTC)
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I rather enjoyed this idea.
Pardon me if Mr. Ellis' idea doesn't sound quite a bit Adams-esque...(Flying is simply about 'missing the ground')
Take an active mind & literary background
Add drugs
stir vigorously
Articulately improbable ideas emerge.
If I could write half as well tweaked on drugs as Mr. Warren Ellis or Mr. Douglas Adams...I'd do more drugs.
(and be a better writer).
If you could prove using equations that you were really somewhere else, perhaps you could convince the same device - using alternative equations - that you were any-when else or any-one else; that you were six inches taller; or a different gender; that you could speak French; or that you were a semi-nude anthropomorphic frog who liked Harold Faltemeiyer. It would be a 'does anything' device. You would just need the right equations. Which you could download for £4-50 a week. They would be the equivalent of ringtones.
How are air and other gaseous substances not "objects" in this sense? The perception that stuff is separate is a bit of an illusion really.
I refer you to the word "drugs" above.
For fuck's sake.
Diamanda Galas and drugs is a great idea... |